27 06 2012

Quieter Elephant:

Lies, damned lies, and statistics!
Despite the title seeming to claim men are NOT promiscuous by nature, the body text merely says that women are just as bad.
Main point of course being that if a flawed study seems to “prove” what we expect, it is less rigorously checked… for decades!!

Originally posted on Emerging Truth:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2165491/So-men-arent-hard-wired-unfaithful-Study-claimed-men-promiscuous-nature-flawed.html

By Victoria Wellman

PUBLISHED: 10:06 EST, 27 June 2012 | UPDATED: 10:21 EST, 27 June 2012

A new study has shaken the foundations of sexual selection theory as it has been understood since 1948.

New research at UCLA examined the famous fruit fly study conducted by English geneticist Angus John Bateman.

The findings undermine the long-accepted theory that men are hard-wired to be unfaithful while women seek monogamy.

Monogamy issues: A new study finds huge flaws in the research that has informed the way we understand sex and promiscuity in males and femalesMonogamy issues: A new study finds huge flaws in the research that has informed the way we understand sex and promiscuity in males and females

Led by Patricia Adair Gowaty, a professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at UCLA, and thanks to the help of advanced DNA analysis, the report found that females may be just as promiscuous as males.

 

In fact, Dr Gowaty, told Science Daily, Bateman’s study should never even have been published.

Musing on the reasons…

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11 responses

27 06 2012
barbaraelka

Humans are sexual beings…the entire species is driven by sex…
Nothing new here.

28 06 2012
Quieter Elephant

Not just humans! :)
More proof we’re not that special after all…

28 06 2012
misfits' miscellany

There goes my favourite excuse.

28 06 2012
Quieter Elephant

I’m sure it’s a rich and long list…

28 06 2012
misfits' miscellany

It’s either too long or not long enough, I’m not sure.

29 06 2012
Quieter Elephant

I’m told the girth is actually more important MM

30 06 2012
misfits' miscellany

She was just being polite.

28 06 2012
lanceleuven

I’m astonished that the paper was ever taken seriously in the first place. Fruit Flies are useful to study for many things but who’s to say their sexual behaviour is any indication of ours? We’re much closer to birds than flies and many birds mate for life so you could simply study them and draw the complete opposite conclusion!

All the same I’d still imagine men to be generally more promiscuous than women because it actually makes sense for us to be. The only way a women can get her genes into the next generation is for her to fall pregnant, survive the pregnancy, survive the birth, and then raise the child for many years to adulthood. This presents a massive challenge that requires support from others. Consequently finding a mate who will help with that task is in her best interest. Whereas a bloke can (technically) get many, many women pregnant and just through sheer probability some of them will have a good chance of making it even if he isn’t around. So a women’s best option is to find a reliable mate who’ll stick around and help her raise the kid while a bloke’s is to stick around and help raise a kid while at the same time spreading his genes as far and wide as possible as a insurance policy. That’s the way I’ve always seen it anyway, although I could be wrong (BTW I’m of course not justifying or condoning this behaviour and certainly don’t partake in it! I’m just looking at it from a strictly evolutionary point of view. From an evolutionary point of view it would also make sense to kill your rivals but that doesn’t make it right or acceptable either).

28 06 2012
Quieter Elephant

Bzzz

29 06 2012
lanceleuven

I stand corrected!

29 06 2012
Quieter Elephant

I actually subscribe to much of what you say. Our mega-brains have lead to “society” and behaviours that have changed way more quickly than those caused by mere evolutionary pressures on our bodies. We’re basically fixing the game. Cheating, if you like.
Evolution built us to require a stable parent caring environment (both parents – one nurturing, one providing) until the kid was able to fend for itself out on the African plains. ~13 years.
Once you have “society” though, a single parent can bring up a child reasonably well alone, due to that broader available support. This frees the male to “fuck and run” as Liz Phair would sing. Safe in the knowledge that the offspring is still likely to prosper, and his genes will spread.
My 2c…

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